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Posted by: Bruce On: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:52 PM

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Rot in piece Oral Roberts , if hell did exist I hope you burn there you piece of crap.
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Posted by: Sarah On: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:09 PM

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Comment Title: BruceBruce put a lot of stuff down, but after researching everything he stated it was fact, I found that he is correct. If you dig in you'll prove it to yourself. It's like the Republicans healthcare plan: put enough garbage down to occupy a lot of space and hope that no one actually reads the stuff.I have followed Bruce's comments and teaching to others off an on for a year or so now and have learned that he is on fire. He has threatened legal action on issues from his DC lawyer friends, claims to have contacted Muslim organizations that would help him push his anti-Christian cause, etc. Turns out, it is all just true. He's just a sexy old man with nothing better to do than get on here and rant.
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Posted by: Bruce On: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:40 AM

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All that and you didn't prove how i was wrong, if you are gonna accuse then prove it. Or do you think people will just take your worthless word? Put up or shut up as the old saying goes. I don't think you have the intellect to back up anything.
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Posted by: On: Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:47 PM

Comment Title: Bruce
Bruce put a lot of stuff down, but after researching everything he stated as though it were fact, I found that he is incorrect. If you dig in you'll prove it to yourself. It's like Obama's healthcare plan: put enough garbage down to occupy a lot of space and hope that no one actually reads the stuff.
I have followed Bruce's comments and threats to others off an on for a year or so now and have learned that he is all smoke and no fire. He has threatened legal action on issues from his DC lawyer friends, claims to have contacted Muslim organizations that would help him push his anti-Christian cause, etc. Turns out, it is all just hype. He's just a crotchety old man with nothing better to do than get on here and rant.
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Posted by: On: Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:47 AM

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Well here is my theory. I don’t necessarily ascribe to ALL the teachings in the bible. I don’t feel Jesus is the savior to all mankind and he died for my sins. How can I call myself a Christian then? Because I do believe in Christ’s teachings and I believe in his divinity as a special entity from God. The reason I don’t believe in the concept of a savior for mankind, is simply humankind is to diverse in their beliefs. I feel God sends us divine messengers to help us who are as diverse as we are. Buddha and Muhammad are divine messengers for certain parts of the world just as Christ was for Judaism and Christianity. I understand that Judaism doesn’t recognize Christ as their Messiah, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t influence them with his teachings. Jesus focused his teachings within parameters of the Judaic faith, but many of his teachings can apply to all of us universally. So a Divine Messenger includes teachings that are universal in nature; teachings that can transcends culture and customs and traditions that are universal truths that can apply to anyone at any time. Jesus was that kind of teacher.
My belief is God is an all-loving and merciful God who forgives ALL of his creations in their transgressions. I do not believe God has petty qualities of anger or vengeance. I don’t feel he punishes anyone ( we do that to ourselves) I think those who do evil deeds will be punished by the universal law of karma. I do not believe in hell. We make that for ourselves. I believe evil will always be a part of this Earth until God decides otherwise.
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Posted by: Xanon On: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:08 PM

Comment Title: Bro, read Bruce
No need to respond.
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Posted by: Bruce On: Saturday, December 12, 2009 12:01 PM

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absolutely nothing at all corroborates the sacred biography and yet this 'greatest story' is peppered with numerous anachronisms, contradictions and absurdities. For example, at the time that Joseph and the pregnant Mary are said to have gone off to Bethlehem for a supposed Roman census, Galilee (unlike Judaea) was not a Roman province and therefore ma and pa would have had no reason to make the journey. Even if Galilee had been imperial territory, history knows of no ‘universal census’ ordered by Augustus (nor any other emperor) – and Roman taxes were based on property ownership not on a head count. Then again, we now know that Nazareth did not exist before the second century.
Nazareth –
The Town that Theology Built



It is mentioned not at all in the Old Testament nor by Josephus, who waged war across the length and breadth of Galilee (a territory about the size of Greater London) and yet Josephus records the names of dozens of other towns. In fact most of the ‘Jesus-action’ takes place in towns of equally doubtful provenance, in hamlets so small only partisan Christians know of their existence (yet well attested pagan cities, with extant ruins, failed to make the Jesus itinerary).
What should alert us to wholesale fakery here is that practically all the events of Jesus’s supposed life appear in the lives of mythical figures of far more ancient origin. Whether we speak of miraculous birth, prodigious youth, miracles or wondrous healings – all such 'signs' had been ascribed to other gods, centuries before any Jewish holy man strolled about. Jesus’s supposed utterances and wisdom statements are equally common place, being variously drawn from Jewish scripture, neo-Platonic philosophy or commentaries made by Stoic and Cynic sages.


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Posted by: Bruce On: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:51 AM

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'Clearly the Christians have used ... myths ... in fabricating the story of Jesus' birth ... It is clear to me that the writings of the Christians are a lie and that your fables are not well-enough constructed to conceal this monstrous fiction.'
– Celsus (On The True Doctrine, c178 AD)
Celsus was one of the foremost thinkers of his age. His critique of the Christians was so damaging that Christians destroyed every copy of his work they could find.


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Posted by: Bruce On: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:46 AM

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The notion of a god-man named Jesus as saviour of humanity is central to Christianity. Jesus on the cross is the icon of Christianity. Jesus is considered the most holy man in the Christian tradition.
Without belief in Jesus, the Christian religion loses all justification for its existence. As such, it becomes of vital importance to examine what is claimed about the Biblical Jesus and to evaluate these claims. Compounding this ideological importance, recent events in theology like the Jesus Seminar have put into question the deeds of the Biblical Jesus.
What exactly does the Bible claim that Jesus did? The most striking feature of Jesus' life is the incredible scope of the miracles he is said to have participated in. He is claimed to have turned water into wine and materialized loaves and fishes to feed thousands after thousands, to have walked on water and tamed the storm, exorcised demons and cured the masses, and raised the dead; and he was publicly judged, crucified, and resurrected (for a complete list with verses, see The Miracles of Jesus Christ). He was born of a virgin, was entombed and rose from the dead after three days, and ascended to Heaven.
One problem of these claims is that they are far from original. All of Jesus' attributes and miracles were already present in earlier myths. Mithraism, a religion that co-existed with Christianity but began much earlier, is the best example of this. Mithra was born of a virgin, his birth was celebrated on December 25th, performed miracles with 12 disciples, held a last supper, resurrected after three days on the spring equinox, and ascended to Heaven.
Also, Zoroaster, Horus, Krishna (member of the Hindu trinity), Bacchus, Prometheus, Indra, and a great deal of other deities or legendary characters were born by virgin birth and shared many other attributes with Jesus. Empedocles was reported as preaching, curing illnesses, controlling the storms, and raising the dead. Dionysus had a last supper. Bacchus turned water into wine. Osiris died and was resurrected. And so on and so forth. In fact, some early Christians condemned the idea of the crucifixion because it was considered pagan !
These other myths are a strong indication of the origins of the Jesus myth, if it is indeed a myth. But if Jesus did exist, then these claims would be irrelevant. Therefore we must examine the evidence.
But the problem here is that there is no evidence. No contemporary evidence (let alone credible contemporary evidence) has ever been proposed for the existence of Jesus
Read more at Suite101: The Jesus myth | Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/pages/article_old.cfm/atheism/106446#ixzz0ZUuoEMQY

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Posted by: Bruce On: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:01 AM

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•Why are we being punished for Adam's sin? After all, he ate the forbidden fruit, we didn’t. It’s his problem not ours – especially in light of Deut. 24;16 which says that children shall not be punished for the sins of their fathers.
•For justice to exist, the punishment must fit the crime. No matter how many bad deeds one commits in this world, there is a limit. Yet, Hell’s punishment is infinite. So where’s the justice?
•How can 2 Kings 8:26 (which says Ahaziah began to rule at age 22) be reconciled with 2 Chron. 22:2 (which says he was 42)?
•While on the cross, Jesus is supposed to have said, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Mark 15:34). How could Jesus be our savior when he couldn’t even save himself? Those aren’t the words of a man voluntarily dying for our sins. Those are the words of a man who can think of a hundred places he would rather be!
•How could Jesus be a true prophet when he wrongly predicted (in Matt. 12:40) that he would be buried three days and three nights, just as Jonah was in the whale three days and three nights? Friday afternoon to early Sunday morning is a day and a half at best.
•How could Jesus be our model of sinless perfection when he denies he is morally perfect in Matt. 19:17? (“And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God”)?
•While on the cross, Jesus is made to say, “Forgive them Father they know not what they do.” To whom was he speaking? Biblicists naturally say “God.” But I thought he was god. How can god speak to god if there is only one god? That’s two gods.

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Posted by: Xanon On: Saturday, December 12, 2009 9:11 AM

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“I am a Christian, a real Christian,” whatcha gonna do with that? You ever know someone who had the habit of starting off his comments with, “and this is the truth?” Makes you wonder if everything else he had to say was BS, doesn’t it. Mr. (or Ms.) Christian, a real Christian, cries out for a response from “I am a Christian, a Sunday Morning Christian,” or, “I am a Christian, a wishy-washy Christian,” or, perhaps, “I am a Christian, a good hypocritical Christian.” While he may make some good points, he prejudices his comments (and his readers) with his lead. Ditch the apposition, Bro. I agree; we should not take the time to try to make our misguided brethren look bad. Let them do that for themselves. See you in church.
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Posted by: On: Saturday, December 12, 2009 6:01 AM

Comment Title: CHRISTIAN TRADITIONS
JESUS our LORD has come to save us from our sins. HE is the Everlasting WORD of GOD Who from the beginning created everything out of nothing. It was only in the "fullness of time" that the Word became flesh. Before that perfect moment, the earth and its peoples were not ready to accept a Savior. When theologians began to build Christian traditions they desired to bring new believers into the fold, not alienate them, and thus they appropriated ancient traditions. This process is called "syncretism" and it assisted in a more peaceful and harmonious acceptance of CHRIST and His teachings. "Ye shall know the truth and the truth sahll set ye free."
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